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Why Ladies in Tech needed to shut | Adriana Gascoigne interview



The Ladies in Tech nonprofit girls’s tech group closed its doorways after 17 years. Founder Adriana Gascoigne introduced the somber information amid “disappointment and devastation.”

I wrote concerning the closing and interviewed Gascoigne afterward. And I advised her that 17 years was run, but it surely’s a disgrace the group didn’t survive.

She began the group in 2007 and it took off with a message of empowerment for girls in tech, who’ve been an underrepresented group within the male-dominated tech business.

Gascoigne mentioned the choice was not made frivolously. The group reached greater than 250,000 people throughout 35 chapters in 30 nations on six continents. It was based in Silicon Valley, however Gascoigne relocated the group to Nashville, Tennessee, in 2022 throughout the pandemic.


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Because the starting of the group, I interviewed her quite a few instances concerning the group’s mission and targets, and the way it rose to higher relevance in combating the “poisonous tradition” of Silicon Valley. Gascoigne mentioned she was impressed after dealing with isolation at tech corporations, usually as the one girl, and after a sexual harassment incident the place she felt her allegations have been ignored.

The group’s packages included a mentorship program, hackathons, coding bootcamps, the Ladies in Tech Convention, a startup problem, world classroom, podcast, weblog, jobs board, and store. The group organized hundreds of in-person and digital occasions, producing instructional and fascinating content material. Gascoigne wrote a e-book about her expertise. I recall fondly taking my daughter to a Ladies in Tech Catalyst occasion and introducing her to Gascoigne.

In our interview, Gascoigne mentioned that the monetary strain on main tech corporations led them to chop funding for Ladies in Tech. Because the scenario bought worse, Gascoigne tried to revive the funding for the nonprofit. However she additionally discovered that corporations have been below political strain to cut back their efforts in range, fairness & inclusion (DEI).

In her e-newsletter this week, Gascoigne mentioned, “Although Ladies in Tech is closing its doorways, the motion we began should and can proceed. I encourage every of you to hold on the struggle to remove the gender hole in tech. Our mission will dwell on in different kinds, pushed by the identical ardour and dedication which have at all times outlined us. I’ll miss you all deeply. Thanks for being part of this unimaginable journey.”

Right here’s an edited transcript of our interview.

Adriana Gascoigne was founder and CEO of Girls in Tech. Pictured in 2022.
Adriana Gascoigne is founder and CEO of Ladies in Tech.

GamesBeat: It’s good to speak with you once more. I’m sorry it needed to be below these circumstances.

Adriana Gascoigne: It’s fairly unhappy. It’s unlucky provided that it’s not simply Ladies in Tech, however different organizations as nicely which can be impacted. It’s a tragic state of affairs any method you have a look at it. It’s a labor of affection, and it grew and grew. I felt that it was one thing wanted throughout the group. Clearly it was impacting me personally. I’m glad different individuals felt the identical method. It’s only a tragedy that we weren’t capable of get funding. That’s the principle factor, the principle motive we needed to shut our doorways.

It’s been drying up since 2023, however even earlier than then, since COVID. We’ve been experiencing challenges elevating funds, whether or not by means of grants or company sponsorships or main present donors. Folks began holding on to their {dollars} much more tightly. Primarily company sponsorships, the place we bought the vast majority of our funding–corporations are simply centered on price containment. That’s a pattern we’re seeing throughout many various tech corporations. Whether or not it’s a reorg or finances cuts or layoffs, people have been simply not investing in partnerships with non-profits like Ladies in Tech.

That’s an enormous tragedy, as a result of it’s precisely when girls want extra assist, when there are tumultuous instances within the business. We want extra profession growth assist, job alternatives, mentorship. However it’s very difficult for us to get that funding.

GamesBeat: There’s at all times a hazard that causes like range undergo when it comes time to cut back and take care of finances cuts. I used to be trying again at among the early tales I did on Ladies in Tech. What do you consider beginning up all these years in the past? What involves thoughts?

Gascoigne: It’s one thing I look again at as a labor of affection, turning right into a full time job, turning right into a motion. It grew so quick, primarily as a result of there was such a requirement. I do really feel that girls world wide within the tech business want a assist group, a assist community, a spot they will study and develop and educate themselves. However extra essential, simply work together and community with different girls on this area, whether or not they wish to collaborate or construct a enterprise or share an thought or maintain an occasion. We would have liked that assist group to assist us construct the arrogance we would have liked to turn into leaders throughout the tech area.

Since 2007, clearly so much has modified. It’s a extra degree enjoying area than it was again within the day. However we simply scratched the floor. There’s an extended approach to go till we hit that–even a passable level of equality throughout the business. I see extra girls making use of for jobs in tech, in STEM, however I don’t see girls in management roles, particularly BIPOC girls, which clearly wants to alter. You possibly can’t be what you possibly can’t see. I really consider in that.

Girls in Tech believes women can find a home in tech.
Ladies in Tech believes girls can discover a dwelling in tech.

It’s simply such a disparity when it comes to capital for feminine founders. It’s been reducing considerably since COVID, and it was already fairly unhealthy again within the day. It was about 2.5% % of all VC capital going to feminine founders, and now it’s lower than 2% within the U.S., which is tragic. We have to shift that and assist feminine founders with extra entry to capital.

GamesBeat: You talked about that sense of feeling alone that bought you to begin the group.

Gascoigne: Simply experiencing many not-so-tasteful issues within the work setting. Whether or not it was sexual harassment, the best way I used to be communicated with, simply being not noted of sure tasks and alternatives–random issues. I put it in my e-book. I used to be doing product advertising for a startup, and this man within the bullpen thought I used to be speaking too loudly, so he threw a water bottle at my head and mentioned, “Shut the F up.” Stuff like that occurred within the startup world in these days. I assumed it was par for the course. Finally I mentioned, “Nope, I can’t take care of this anymore.” That was the impetus to begin the group and supply a community for girls going by means of the identical issues within the startup world.

All the things was catered to that brogrammer tradition. They needed to draw these 25- to 35-year-old engineers, white dudes in hoodies, to return and work at their corporations. Numerous them didn’t have any form of coaching in social etiquette, or the power to speak with our gender very nicely. It was difficult. It was very misogynistic. I really feel prefer it’s developed a bit, however there’s such an extended approach to go when it comes to supporting girls within the business, getting girls to turn into leaders, managers, administrators, executives inside tech startups and corporations.

GamesBeat: The ladies that you just met alongside the best way shared your viewpoint. Do individuals share numerous comparable tales with you?

Girls in Tech has moved to Nashville, Tennessee.
Ladies in Tech has moved to Nashville, Tennessee.

Gascoigne: They do. Ladies in my community, positively. I put numerous them in my e-book. Some individuals–it didn’t occur to everybody. I do know some individuals who mentioned, “Nicely, it didn’t occur to me that method.” Some individuals are fortunate. However I did discuss to many ladies, many individuals who skilled–simply being alienated, remoted, and handled in a different way based mostly on their gender.

The answer isn’t only a coaching program or a workshop or tips or insurance policies that executives put into place. I believe it has much more to do with tradition, a lead by instance tradition. The primary 10 staff, and particularly the executives, the management and founders, should instill. They’ve to guide by instance and be sure that the individuals they rent embrace these values, so the tradition is constructive and productive and supportive. Folks really feel protected and welcome. Anyone, no matter their background, ought to really feel welcome.

GamesBeat: As you grew quick, did you discover that girls have been already there working in tech, or that Ladies in Tech was drawing them in?

Gascoigne: Ladies have been already there. The primary occasion in San Francisco, we had greater than 200 girls in tech. It was at a membership known as Slide, subsequent to the Ruby Skye. It was February 2007. A buddy, Jonathan Abrams, who later turned a board member, was half proprietor of the membership. That was the place the magic occurred. We had greater than 200 girls attending – designers, builders, product individuals, entrepreneurs. I used to be floored at how many individuals confirmed up, and what number of girls in tech existed in San Francisco.

That was the impetus for me to–it was very encouraging the conversations that have been had. Nearly infectious. It excited me. It was thrilling to see so many ladies who have been so passionate concerning the tech business, who needed to thrive and advance their expertise and climb up the ladder or launch their very own companies. They wanted a assist community. That’s what bought me to go from a small networking occasion to launching a company. That was the night time.

It looks like so way back. I assume it was. A lot has occurred since then.

GamesBeat: Was there a method that the group–I do know it was a non-profit, however was there one thing about it that helped it take off and have sufficient funding to develop? Did one thing begin working on the very starting on that monetary entrance?

Girls in Tech did an event in Nashville.
Ladies in Tech just lately did an occasion in Nashville.

Gascoigne: I did it as a “passion.” I labored to ensure it was profitable and produced occasions and engaged our attendees, but it surely wasn’t till we did an occasion in Phoenix, Arizona. We had a few individuals serving to Ladies in Tech with producing a convention. They pulled out, however we have been nonetheless caught with a contract with a resort. I had a full-time job, so I couldn’t handle the manufacturing or assist out. I used to be working at a really demanding startup. I attempted to barter my method out of it. I even flew to Phoenix to attach with the GM of the resort. Clearly I assumed I may pull the heartstrings as a result of we have been a non-profit. Nothing labored.

I needed to stop my job. I used to be working at an organization known as RxMatch. I began on the lookout for sponsorships full time. I consider it was a $90,000 invoice. I didn’t have that a lot cash, not even shut. I knew I needed to stop my job and begin on the lookout for sponsorships. It was a really aggravating time in my life. However not solely was I capable of finding sponsors to cowl that invoice, I used to be capable of get twice that a lot. It constructed numerous confidence in my power and my capability to ask for cash to assist the group, and it opened my eyes to the truth that corporations needed to assist Ladies in Tech.

GamesBeat: Was there a peak or a heyday for Ladies in Tech as a company, when it comes to dimension and the assist coming from the business?

Gascoigne: It was in all probability proper earlier than COVID. In 2019 we have been nonetheless in San Francisco. There was a lot occurring, a lot exercise with tech corporations and startups and incubators and accelerators. Numerous superior media shops and new organizations popping as much as assist completely different marginalized and underrepresented teams in tech. There was numerous pleasure, numerous traction, numerous alternatives.

That’s when Ladies in Tech was capable of shine and execute on all its premier occasions. We did our Catalyst convention. Hundreds of individuals got here to the convention in downtown San Francisco. I believe we had about 4,000 attendees. Prime notch audio system, phenomenal leaders, from astronauts to authors to tech execs. It was an incredible range of audio system. We even had Mayim Bialik, the actress from Massive Bang Concept.

We did a number of bootcamps. We did a hackathon with ESPN. The bootcamps have been at all times wonderful, whether or not it was Python coding or product design. We had numerous UX designers in our group. We additionally did numerous management coaching, energy expertise coaching. These have been actually well-attended and in excessive demand. We had our world classroom, which was our e-learning platform. We taught numerous safety programs on that platform. We had a digital creator truthful as nicely. Only a nice number of high notch packages. It was at all times offered out. Nice traction. Folks had great suggestions.

We additionally did some massive fundraising occasions. We had our gala at Metropolis Corridor in San Francisco, which was offered out. We have been capable of elevate quantity of funding. We had a dwell public sale. Phenomenal reminiscences of the occasions we produced, the chapter packages. We did a chapter retreat the place girls from everywhere in the world bought collectively in Lyon, France. All of our administrators from world wide. We did workshops and bought to know one another and bond and discuss Ladies in Tech, what works, what hadn’t been working. Simply connecting for the higher good, encouraging one another to develop our horizons and brainstorm on methods we may enhance Ladies in Tech, and enhance ourselves as leaders.

GamesBeat: We had the #MeToo disaster come alongside. I don’t know what sort of time that was for the group. Did that make what you have been doing appear extra related?

A scene from 2015’s Ladies in Tech feminine startup pitch competitors.

Gascoigne: It created much more consciousness. Not simply in tech, however many different industries as nicely. What the motion did very nicely is maintain lots of people accountable. You possibly can’t get away with unhealthy conduct anymore. We’ll discuss it. Social media will assist us amplify our voice. It was eye-opening, as a result of we knew numerous these individuals. I bought some cellphone calls from reporters. I had combined emotions, for certain.

GamesBeat: It appears like at the moment the group would have gotten extra assist, but it surely seems like that didn’t essentially change.

Gascoigne: The #MeToo motion–as a result of it turned so widespread, with so many individuals concerned and taking part and sharing what was taking place to them, it underscored–I don’t wish to say validated, however I believe that’s the phrase. It validated what we have been doing. We’re a marginalized group of ladies in tech. We want this assist community so we will excel and take care of the problems we’re dealing with. Whether or not by means of management coaching or a assist group to share what was taking place at your organization, your startup, or whether or not it was making an attempt to assist assist profession growth–I believe the motion did assist that. It did assist.

The pendulum has simply been swinging backwards and forwards. The BLM motion, for instance, whereas individuals suppose it in all probability helped Ladies in Tech, it really didn’t. Clearly supporting marginalized teams and BIPOC communities is essential, however numerous the company sponsors ended up taking their funds and supporting organizations that focus on the black group. Regardless that Ladies in Tech helps the black group world wide, they’d nonetheless take their {dollars} and assist different organizations. That’s one thing that occurred abruptly.

However then you definitely had the DEI backlash, and that’s hit us actually onerous. That, truthfully, led to the demise of Ladies in Tech. I really consider in range and inclusion within the tech area. I consider that we create higher services and products in tech with various groups. It’s not simply racial range. Folks consider that as a major approach to outline range, but it surely’s not. It’s range of thought. It’s range of background, range of experience, range of the place you’ve lived on the planet, what languages you converse, what you wish to eat for breakfast. It’s a must to take into consideration the gamut of what makes individuals distinctive.

Adriana Gascoigne, head of Ladies in Tech, tried to get women within the tech pipeline.

As shoppers, as individuals who use know-how–the applied sciences we use should be appropriate for all of us. You probably have various individuals constructing these services and products, you’ll have extra alternatives to construct distinctive use circumstances for all individuals, not only one goal demographic.

GamesBeat: It positively doesn’t seem to be the job is completed. There’s nonetheless a torch for somebody to hold.

Gascoigne: I agree. We had a lot work left to do. That’s why it’s tragic and unhappy. We had numerous energetic chapters and groups on the bottom. Folks needed to assist us. However within the U.S., the company funders, the company sponsors, which we primarily bought funding from–the DEI divisions, which have been both below HR or social affect or CSR, the funds have been drying up.

I believe they have been drying up as a result of numerous corporations realized that their DEI practices or methods have been simply not working. They’re making an attempt to diversify the workforce, however there’s no retention. If there’s no retention, when you’re spending all this cash and never reaching or sustaining that various workforce–Ladies in Tech was at all times put within the DEI bucket. Sadly, in consequence, we weren’t capable of proceed accessing these funds. All of the DEI executives have been getting fired and the DEI divisions have been dissolving. DEI sources and practices and applied sciences have been dissolving in consequence.

GamesBeat: Pivoting throughout the pandemic, did you’ve a lot success with digital occasions and the like?

Gascoigne: We did. As you mentioned, we did numerous digital occasions. All the things was digital. We have been capable of do all of our occasions on-line, principally. Our convention was digital, our digital profession truthful. Our world classroom was at all times digital, our e-learning platform. We taught our bootcamps nearly as nicely. We constructed out our managing director intranet for extra built-in, seamless communication with our chapters world wide. There was so much occurring, however we transitioned fairly simply.

To be trustworthy, it saved the group some huge cash. As everyone knows, in-person productions are very costly. However Ladies in Tech has at all times buil–the muse of what we do was at all times in-person. It was very tough. Everybody had to go surfing. After a few years we began reintroducing the in-person occasions, bootcamps or hackathons or no matter it was, however our manufacturing prices went again up. Particularly across the convention, which is dear to supply.

We tailored properly. We needed to do extra of a hybrid method to our programming. That’s true to our values, true to our nature. That was in excessive demand for our members as nicely. However we have been ramping up these extra pricey productions simply because the funding was ramping down.

GamesBeat: You moved to Nashville. Was {that a} tough transition?

Ladies in Tech occasion in 2015.

Gascoigne: Nashville was an excellent transition. The tech group right here is rising quick. Everybody’s very supportive. Our convention right here was offered out. All the foremost establishments got here out to assist, like Vanderbilt and Belmont and Tennessee State and Lipscomb. All the foremost media shops, the Nashville Enterprise Journal, the Tennessean, NBC, ABC, CBS. All of them got here out to assist, as a result of they have been excited that a company like Ladies in Tech was coming to the group and bringing programming, offering job alternatives for individuals. We had excessive hopes for our new dwelling right here in Nashville.

It was additionally very cost-effective. Not simply personally, however professionally issues are considerably cheaper right here than they’re within the bay space. There have been like-minded organizations that got here out to assist. Management right here could be very collaborative, not aggressive. I made numerous phenomenal relationships with leaders. From that perspective, it was superior. I don’t suppose corporations by any means froze their {dollars} due to the transfer to Nashville. It was extra about what varieties of packages you possibly can produce and the place you possibly can produce them. We’re a world group. For those who fund us and also you wish to do an occasion in Boston or in Nepal or in Paris, now we have groups on the bottom to execute on that. That was by no means a problem.

GamesBeat: How did you lastly make the choice to shut?

Gascoigne: To be trustworthy–issues have been drying up. We had 5 of our accomplice renewals, corporations that supported us 12 months over 12 months, simply pull out all on the similar time. We have been in negotiations and creating proposals and solidifying agreements. To have 5 recurring company sponsors pull out all on the similar time–that’s a jolt to the system. That prompted numerous stress that week.

We continued to do our company sponsor outreach, our grant outreach, reaching out to main present donors, doing on-line campaigns. Simply concurrently, they have been all drying up. None of our fundraising methods have been profitable. It was unusual. This had by no means occurred to the group. It’s been very traumatizing, I assume. We’re making an attempt so onerous. Everybody’s working lengthy hours and rolling up their sleeves and placing grit into their on a regular basis duties to attain profitable outcomes, however something and every part we tried was simply not working.

We have been going month to month at a sure level–5 months of runway was three months of runway was two months of runway. Finally we knew that if we didn’t get cash within the door ASAP–you want a month to shut down. Lots of people don’t take into consideration how a lot cash it takes to shut down a enterprise. I didn’t wish to file for chapter. I needed to do issues the proper method and ensure my staff have been taken care of, that that they had severance and advantages and whatnot. You simply can’t exist hoping and praying that cash will come on this month or subsequent month. You possibly can’t function a enterprise month to month, particularly whenever you’re making an attempt to supply packages and handle operations and canopy payroll. It’s simply not sustainable to function that method.

Ladies in Tech occasion in 2017.

We waited till the final minute. We’ve no regrets. We tried our hardest. Everybody put their coronary heart and soul into their roles and tried to maintain us alive. Sadly we couldn’t succeed. That’s okay. The legacy will dwell on in different kinds. I consider the spirit of Ladies in Tech will dwell on.

GamesBeat: I believe you possibly can have a look at 17 years as successful.

Gascoigne: I do. I’ve so many nice reminiscences. It’s going to take me some time to digest every part. However any time I consider Ladies in Tech, it’s very constructive, joyful, great ideas, great reminiscences. We had our trials and tribulations over time, however general it’s been a ravishing expertise. The individuals I met by means of the group are unmatched. A few of the most great individuals on the planet.

GamesBeat: Have you ever found out what you wish to do subsequent?

Gascoigne: I’ve some concepts percolating, some conversations going. I’m taking a little bit of a breather, not an extended one, to see what calls out to me, the place my place is on this subsequent chapter.


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